Unmade: Ups and downs of the radio ratings with industry commentator Vivienne Kelly

With the last-but-one radio ratings of the year released this week, radio commentator Vivienne Kelly joined me to analyse the numbers.

Before her time as content director of Radio Today, Vivienne was editor of Mumbrella. She is about to launch her new industry podcast That’s Entertainment with Jake Challenor.

Ratings discussion points:

• Wendy Harmer and Robbie Buck’s lap of honour for ABC Sydney;