Stop treating Facebook users like morons
Who likes kittens? Inane Facebook updates like these, posted by brand owners, are spreading like a rash reckons Douglas Nicol.
Nine weeks ago the Ad Standards Board ruled Facebook pages managed by brands to be a form of advertising. This echoes the previous ACCC ruling to the same effect. As a result a terminal pox is developing in social media.
It’s evident on an increasing number of Facebook brand pages. I call it the brand ‘Kindy conversation’. Like a dodgy rash the problem is spreading and could be terminal for brands attempting to have a meaningful social engagement with the consumer.
Take some recent Facebook posts from well-known brands:
thank you finally for someone stating the obvious.
Sometimes the simple things work all the same. If a Facebook page predominantly engages with photo’s, well they tell a 1000 words, so a brief and simple sentence is all that is needed isn’t it?
Depends on what your message is and what you are trying to achieve, who you are trying to target I guess?
I like the Visit Queensland page as an example: http://www.facebook.com/visitqueensland
I do hear where you are coming from nevertheless and have seen many pages, which do not engage with their target market on say Facebook. (Can all target markets be engaged on Facey…?)
Perhaps the dumbest article I’ve ever read.
The (stupid) brand is having a conversation with the )stupid) consumer about something (stupidly) inane. And you have a problem with that???
How many times do you comment on the weather a week?
Life is inane. Inane is safe. Safe is good.
Not everything has to be ‘advertising clever’.
What he’s saying is that a connection between a brand’s goal and their customers does not have to be based on obtaining ‘likes’. Rather, it should be through a dialogue that hinges on their interests specific to the brand. Everyone loves kittens and hugs, that’s easy. What is hard is getting people to give a shit about what you’re saying beyond the easy, puffy stuff.
I think this is an example of what Doulas is talking about.
http://mashable.com/2012/10/16.....rant-vide/
A genuinely entertaining response that engaged their audience and enhanced their brand.
I think what we all need to do here is have a look at “Condescending Corporate Brand Page” http://www.facebook.com/corpor.....38;fref=ts
Good call @Encyclic
Tis a shame to write this article without referencing the Condescending Corporate Brand Page:
http://www.facebook.com/corporatebollocks
“Like this page if you don’t like elderly relatives dying” amongst other too-familar posts.
Also agree with Encyclic, the Condescending Corporate Brand Page was the first thing I thought of when I read this article.
Community Managers are often based on the amount of “Likes” they get and this is a cheap and easy way to boost those figures. Sadly it does nothing for real engagement which isn’t so easy to measure or boast about in a weekly WIP.
You’re Facebook fans really are friends of your brand and that’s exactly how you should treat them.
Has anyone thought to consider Edgerank or is this just going to be one of those “everyone else is dumb and I’m so clever” posts?
I’m with you Douglas. Last Friday I had 3 brands asking me “What are you doing this weekend?”. Probably unliking some brands?
When it’s a game developer/publisher asking me what game I’ll be playing this weekend, it’s fine, hell, I’ve won free stuff from PC hardware companies for responding to social media fluff.
If it was Mazda (or similar) asking me what I was doing on the weekend, I’d be replying “unliking your page”, screenshotting it, and submitting it to http://www.facebook.com/corporatebollocks after it had gotten a few likes.
Apparently being responsible for your actions = “a terminal pox”. Boo hoo, marketing sooks.
also.. kitteh’s work way better than something serious.
Don Quixote much…
Lol Greg… of course you’re absolutely correct. Edgerank now emphasises engagement over “likes”. If you’re still thinking that “likes” = pat on the back from bosses/brands then you need to do some more research. Any post made on Facebook needs to generate a response – like, comment and/or share if it’s to improve the pages overall performance. This is the reason so many Community Managers are clutching at straws by posting random and sometimes moronic questions to followers.
The second challenge facing CM’s is the approval process. If a company outsource their social media activities to an agency it can take an incredibly long time to get post approval. If a company/brand don’t trust their agency to control the “voice” then followers get a restricted experience. This stunted approval process can also occur when social media departments have been created in-house and trust is in short supply.
Brands are scared of spontaneity. If they trusted themselves and the people they work for to get it right then we’d be seeing something more than “Who likes Kittens”?
…and the people who work for them rather.
Wait. This isn’t driven by a fear of difficult conversation!
It is driven by Facebook’s updated Edgerank algorithm which has been tweaked so that promoted posts are becoming more necessary to be seen.
To engage everybody in your (hopefully) diverse community, you need to have a variety of content – including what the supercilious among us might consider “inane”.
If it gets likes, and you don’t like it , it’s still valid as an engagement tactic.
Any real Social Media Manager understands that balance.
^^T-Bone: +1
Also, thanks for the condescension, Nicky – that came across real nice with your link to your website. I’m sorry, you obviously really “get” social, what with the link to your corporate Facebook page on your website being broken and all. https://www.facebook.com/moorefilm
#oops
You’ll forgive me as I never said that Teh Kittehs are the way to go. The way I see it, different brands need different strategies, and some consumer brands do well with keeping up with pop culture. Obviously a “Which is cuter, kittens or puppies” might fall flat for a bank, but might do well for a local pet store. Similarly, “like this post if you want to head to Destination X” helps tourism bodies stay top of mind with good content. What Tbone is saying re. book-ending brand-specific content with so-called “supercilious” conversation makes sense, because Facebook allows brands a more human interface with users. Not to mention Edgerank.
@Greg I was actually giving you a compliment…. although now I’m just thinking that you’re just a douche. You were the only one to mention Edgerank in this discussion and I thought you were pointing to engagement as an important factor.
Thank you for the heads up re: Facebook. I missed my footer link.
And yes, I do “get” social just ask the handful of companies I’ve worked with.
more importantly, let’s consider the moronity of facebook marketers. instead of arguing about the most comfortable deckchair on the titanic (likes vs engagement vs some other bs), read this:
http://martinweigel.files.word.....-drum2.pdf
Posted on the Coca Cola Facebook page 15 hrs ago and so far has received:
46,635 likes and 1309 comments
“Dear Coca Cola
Irn Bru is better
Yours Sincerely,
Scotland”
Kudos to the Irn Bru lover who might not realise that this is a very big marketing victory for the Scottish drink!
Free branding for Irn Bru…
New age advertising.
I am always surprised when people actually comment on questions like that. Then again, there are some pretty dumb people out there.
People who say kindy comments at parties are lonely people seeking some form of attention and human contact, no matter how trivial or shallow.
Brands behaving this way online are branding themselves the same way. They have plenty of interesting things to discuss with people, be interesting, not boring, shallow and vapid!
@sit on my facebook… totally agree Weigels piece is the best thing that I have read on the topic by far!!