Sydney Radio Ratings: Nova overtakes WSFM; Fitzy & Wippa up to second; Alan Jones grows share

Well, for all the bitching and moaning about Alan Jones, it appears that it was just feeding the monster… That old saying, “any publicity is good publicity” still holds true.

Well done AJ and the management and sales teams at 2GB, the storm has passed, clients are coming back in droves and the social media ‘haters’ remain INEFFECTIVE.

That is all.

I guess 2GB can charge more for ads now, so who is the winner!!

They must be pretty upset at 2UE.

Of the major just 2GB and Nova went up. I guess the last ratings period of the year could be a key to see who survives on air in 2013

thanks haters, please maintain the rage

Thanks Singo … will do.

I never thought I would say this- but I have just become a Labor voter, I now have nothing in common with Singo, AJ or the fringe whinge.

I’m not surprised the ratings have gone up given that there are fewer ads and the controversy has given Alan publicity. But I wonder how their finances are going after 82 sponsors have been scared off? The old paradigm of ratings = dollars may not be so clear any more.

People will always make their own choices. That’s called ‘Freedom of Choice’ and no matter how much the rabble maintain their rage, people will continue to do that. And Singo’s laughing. I don’t blame him.

Triple J continues to slide. That station has lost all relevance. The rot set in in the late 90s when so many good announcers and programmes left the station.

@ annonymous . Thats a bit extreme. Dont do it unless you want your great grandkids to pay of the debt.

….to split the ears of the groundlings, who for the most part are capable of nothing but inexplicable dumb-shows and noise.

Hamlet 3-2.

This is all part of the ambivalence of ratings driven media. In the case of Shakespeare’s “periwig pated fellow” at least it was only personal promotion, an actor seeking the limelight (before such a thing existed) and self satisfaction.

If only we had the real nerve, the guts to produce honestly and artistically, and to build a truly recognisable audience where a company could choose to place advertising , knowing with accuracy that the word would spread in the appropriate circles.

I don’t know whether it would work or not, but I feel somehow that it would be a brave and laudable battle in which to engage.

As commented elsewhere: “Jones is actually down slightly on the same time last year (17.5%). What’s more, in this survey 2GB lost share in every age bracket between 18 and 54. Most of the growth was in the 65+ age group. The station actually *lost* 21,000 listeners in the wealthy 25-54 age group”

Not a good result for AJ then.

Massage….the numbers are down from last year because radio is generally losing listeners across the board as other media rise in popularity. But please, give your source for all this. Or are you just conveniently juggling figures to try to prove a point?

@Denis

Why not? Every body, group, corporation, bureau and government department on earth, does just that in one form or another.

Give me three statisticians on one project, and I will show you three sets of conflicting figures.

Denis, the Nielsen data on CRA’s website, using Sydney People 10+ data for the breakfast slot and comparing Survey 7 2012 to Survey 7 2011, shows:
* Total Market average audience down -2.4%, and the cumulative audience down -2.2% (i.e. you are right)
* 2GB average audience down -3.6%, and cumulative audience down -3.7% (i.e. Massage is also right)

Conclusion: Breakfast radio in Sydney is declining, Jones is declining marginally faster than the market when assessed against the same survey last year.

Oh how this must hurt all the never-quite-made-its who jumped on the “bash Jones” bandwaggon. Media people are cynical, leftist b’s at the best of times, now they’re can all go and commiserate with the ABC and Fairfax media colleagues who must REALLY be crying tears of blood.

This survey period is from Sep 16 to Oct 20. The previous survey period is Jul 29 to Sep 1.

Denis. The source of the words is me, but more importantly, the data is straight out of the Nielson surveys. It’s publicly available data and easy to fact check.

I said Alan Jones would get a bigger audience. Didn’t I say that? Why, yes I did http://www.kitegirlcoach.com/m.....lim-video/

Rosco says exactly what I want to say.

Tim, you correctly point out that Survey 7 covers 10 weeks of interviewing. The Jones comments first surfaced (as far as I can tell) on Saturday September 29. This means that (assuming each week has the same number of interviews) 70% of the people asked what they listened to, were asked BEFORE the comments surfaced. Who knows whether the Jones ratings went up or down after the comments surfaced? You sure can’t tell from this 10-week survey average.

So if you all wait until Survey 8, you will get a MUCH better read on the situation as it will have 80% of respondents interviewed prior to the comments surfacing. But how unlike Jones’ supporters to be loose with their interpretation of data.

If I may have another bite at the cherry Tim.

Jones’ share moved from 14.2 to 14.5. If we assume a ‘no change’ status for the seven weeks preceding the comments (i.e. averaged a 14.2 share), what would the share need to be for the three weeks after the comments? The answer is a 15.2 share for those three weeks to produce a 14.5 share across the ten weeks.

Therefore a 15.0 share (all other things being equal) for Survey 8 (two weeks at the old assumed 14.2 share and 8 weeks at the guesstimated 15.2 share) would be a reasonable starting point to confidently say that Jones audience was in no way negatively affected by his comments.