Union ad celebrates great moments of denial

excellent!

Does beg the question what the CFMEU is doing spruiking the tax though. If I were paying dues to them I would wonder about this use of my money…

typical leftist rubbish – so quick to label anyone who disagrees with them a “denier”, while remaining totally silent about how a tax on Australia is going to change the climate of the world (given where the emissions from China and India are heading).

our whole continent could fall into the sea and the world wouldn’t notice in terms of emissions. but as long as Juliar, the Greens and Get Up feel good about themselves well it’s all worthwhile.

thats funny.

could have finished a little stronger though i think

I wonder how many of their members are above the $80k threshold, and are therefore guaranteed to lose out on this blatant wealth redistribution scheme? And let’s not beat around the bush here – when certain sections of society are going to profit from this ‘tax’ by up to 20% – that’s exactly what it is. At least re-invest the profit made from this tax into renewable technology research instead of just cynically shelling it out to buy back votes from Howard’s Battlers.

They obviously think keeping their Labour pals in office is a bigger priority than serving their members.

Brett T and ‘A Load of Hot Air’ – my how cynical and short-sighted you twats are.

Ever thought about it in the long run, and not just worried about how much of your money is going to be taken, or have you always been this short-sighted and money-driven?

Sure we’re going to see some of the tax ourselves, but the percentage we’ll see is barely anything, especially when compared to the wonderful 10% GST that Howard brought in, yet I hazard a guess that if you were voting back then, you kept that lying SOB in power.

Quit your whingeing, take your political clap-trap elsewhere, and let’s keep this about the ad, and not turn this into a comment thread for sniveling right-wing hacks who want to voice their displeasure about the current government.

Personally, I enjoy that ad. It’s cheeky, it’s fun, and I think it gets the message across without shoving anything down your throat. A nice piece of advertising!

Great ad. I just hope the message sinks in and manages to cut through the head-in-the-sand shock jocks and the extremists in the Liberal Party.

Lefty Pinko Commie maybe if you’d actually achieved something with your life you’d understand how frustrating it is when people think they’re entitled to things you’ve worked hard for. I’m all for action on climate change, but stealing from the productive sectors of the economy and giving to those such as yourself who haven’t made the right choices in life (or are just downright lazy) will only harm us all in the long run.

If you want that kind of system maybe you should move to North Korea or Venezuela and reap the benefits of their Marxist utopias.

Oh, and ignoring it’s corrupt motive, I think the ad is ok.

So why are all these supposedly independent bodies doing the government’s advertising for it? Here’s GetUp’s latest patronising infographic http://www.getup.org.au/campai.....head-start

Do these organisations not have better things to spend their member donations on?

Ummmm Bretty. They’re not “stealing from the productive sectors of the economy” but the highest polluting ones. Why should anyone be allowed to pollute for free?

Betty Boo perhaps you should read my post again. I have nothing against the tax per se. I’ll give you a hint where my beef lies: “four million households would be better off after compensation”. Now wouldn’t that ‘extra’ money be better spent developing our wind and solar technologies so that we are at the global cutting edge and can take advantage when the rest of the world adopts carbon controls? Why are we squandering it? There is nothing green about that part of the policy at all. As I said – a cynical vote grab.

hey leftie pinko commie did it ever occur to you that the tax merry go round will not make a lick of difference to how people use carbon-intensive power?

big polluters pay the government, they pass on higher costs to consumers, money collected from big polluters goes to lower income earners to help pay their higher electricity and other bills (via another bloated bureaucracy) meaning they create the same amount of carbon emissions. and no way am i rationing my lights and air con, i’ll just cop the higher bill……net result – no reduction in emissions.

and guess how we meet our reduced emission targets in Australia – the big polluters buy offshore carbon credits from dodgy places like equatorial guinea and kazakhstan so our government in this case doesn’t get the money needed to underwrite the compensation.

awesome, another own goal from the unholy labor/greens alliance.

and you lefties need to get your story straight – likening this monstrosity to the GST doesn’t add up. the GST was structural reform to the tax system to more fairly hit people at a consumption level, and to stamp out the tax-dodging cash economy.

the carbon tax on the other hand hits production and cripples industries, particularly those competing with countries that do not have a carbon tax and are not under the delusion that a local tax will change the temperature of the Earth.

biggest bunch of economic neanderthals we’ve ever had in charge of the “used to be lucky” country

To the “Righties” on this thread.
This ad is great.
The science of global warming has been proven. Australia will take a leadership position on pollution reduction and will benefit by doing so. Abbott is grabbing at straws and drowning.
The argument about our small population is irrelevant as it is beholding on everyone to do something, especially the developed nations.
This is risk mitigation as there is no “planet B”.
If the carbon tax has ruined your plans to relocate to another planet then I truly feel for you.

right on Doughboy & pinko commie.

Brett T’s comments are the same old right wing clap trap you hurt my hip nerve pocket chorus. Talk about neanderthals! economic and social!!! They really believe they are born to rule

Bretty Boy, did you read my post? ‘I’m right, so i’m right’, did you even look past your blind rage before commenting?

Political beliefs aside, my point was that this isn’t the place to bring your pre-historic political bullsh*t to the surface (be you a blinded right-wing hack in your case, or a greeny-loving leftie as you assume I am).

This is an advertising blog, and no matter which side of the political see-saw you sit on, your irrelevant slagging, which is based on your political beliefs, brings nothing to the argument as to whether this is or is not a good ad.

As an ad, do you think it’s effective? Does it get its point across in a good or bad manner? Are the actors believable? How is the copy?

The message is effective in this advert, although some of the scenes are a bit misconstrued with their communications synergy, I didn’t get particularly the white guy and the ‘white men coming’… strange. But I guess that’s why it’s effective. Also, this carbon tax is going to be devastating for everyone, the Labour Government are incompetent, they don’t let their leader-elect finish his term, call for an election and bribe the Green Party who are now shovelling their influence and values into this carbon scheme. We are the only ones doing it (minus the select few in Europe). You can’t tax carbon when we do not have an alternative for a clean, effective and renewable energy system/process, unless you’ve already strongly considered nuclear energy. Again, look at all these subsides and off-sets to industries, I read a $3 billion pay out over 4 years to the mining and resource industry sector to help offset their rising costs of production due to the implementation of the carbon tax, seems pretty counter-intuitive. I would hate to see it pass.

Leftie Pinko Commie the issue in this thread IS the carbon tax, which is the subject of this ad and the motive behind airing it. If you read my original comment you would see I was addressing just that. You can talk about the video’s technical details if you like, I would like to delve deeper and attempt to ponder issues that you don’t seem able to grasp.

And I don’t harbor any “blind rage”, just a mild sense of irritation that any attempt to question the dubious motives and strawman arguments raised by ads like these are met with overly aggressive and rude attacks like yours in post 6. You remind me of the stereotypical smug, hostile uni student with a megaphone who thinks that yelling personal attacks in people’s faces constitutes making a successful argument. In reality you just make yourself look like a tit to those who know better.

I find it interesting that as Labour sinks deeper and deeper in the polls, even against a woeful opposition leader, the militant shrills like you are getting more and more vocal. You will soon see that the louder you yell the less people will pay attention.

Leftie Pinko Commie is your classic lefty troll. So used to spending time in his lefty circle-jerk forums he is genuinely shocked when he encounters a coherent argument against his beloved party and ideals. The only way he can respond is with abuse and personal attacks.

Guess what buddy: your party sucks, your policies suck, and working Australians are sick of you clowns trashing our economy. You are wrong. Deal with it.

Is this the part where someone makes a comparison to a certain German dictator and the conversation stops?

Personally I’m quite enjoying your banter :D, as for how good or bad the carbon tax is, we won’t really see the real effects till later ay? Anyway if a good majority of economists say it’s the right thing to do, I’ll take their word for it…and the “select few in Europe” as it was put.

Charles Firth you’re a funny man, good ad.

Why is there a white man dressing up like a black man? That’s racist.

More gullible people who’ve drunk the Kool Aid! The Rev Jim Jones would be proud of them.

Man you can’t even talk about an ad without assholes of all stripes coming out and impotently bleating at each other about Climate change.

A simple point very well made. Perhaps too true for some people commenting, the truth can enrage can’t it?

The white guy in the scene surely means that they, like climate change, are already here.Hope that helps the ‘communication synergy’ for you D.

Now, which of these posts are Tony?

Mortimer and Groucho – you seem far more simpatico than I first believed… The thread proves that the ad works – QED

For the non-believers! –

Research Ross Garnaut (Climate Change Minister) and OK Tedi Mine of PNG – story short; BHPB with Ross as MD raped and pillaged the natural environment only to come to Aust.Politics to swindle a sales pitch that taxes all major industries leaving us to a competitive disadvantage, what hypocrisy!

Case. Close. Carbon Tax is a load of rubbish!

A nice little comment in the telegraph:

It is time to stop this endless
preoccupation with the carbon
price and turn our attention to
the horn of Africa.
Drought and war has lead to
a stream of refugees, many of
them malnourished children,
streaming into the Dadaab
refugee camp in Kenya.
In a camp meant for 90,000
people there are now over
360,000 refugees who are
hungry and in need of help
from overseas aid agencies.
It makes our complaints
about how much
compensation we should
receive or are not receiving in
this political climate pale into
insignificance. Sometimes our
petty worries are trivial when
compared with mass hunger or
the sadness of a mother who
has lost her child to drought
and famine.
Diedree Steinwall
Heathcote

It never ceases to amaze me how quickly the “you’re all marxists go live in North Korea” idiots spring to life like zombies in the night as soon as anyone who actually understands that taxing the polluters and encouraging the non-polluters is actually a long-term good thing.