Foxtel’s streaming boss Julian Ogrin on chasing 5m homes and winning the ad war

Welcome to an audio-led edition of Unmade (with quite a few written words too).

Today, we talk to Foxtel’s streaming and advertising boss, Julian Ogrin; Seven’s slumping share price sees it at risk of being eclipsed by ARN Media; and we share more news of our retail media conference REmade.

If you’ve been thinking about upgrading to an Unmade membership, this is the perfect time. Your membership includes:

• Member-only pricing for our HumAIn and REmade (October 1) conferences;